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On today’s episode, I’m joined by Sarah Aberman, co-founder of Ninchanese, an app that makes learning Mandarin fun and accessible through gamified lessons and interactive tools.

I found Ninchanese particularly effective when transitioning between elementary and intermediate levels.

The gamified elements, progressing through story-driven levels with graded dialogues and fictional characters, added a fun dimension to my learning journey, keeping me consistently engaged.

We talk about Sarah’s personal journey learning Mandarin and the inspiration behind creating Ninchanese.